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		<title>By: To retrospect or not retrospect; that is the question &#171; Absolut Agile</title>
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		<dc:creator>To retrospect or not retrospect; that is the question &#171; Absolut Agile</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Anna Forss Leave a comment Go to comments    Steven “Doc” List shared his and Chris Matts discussion on retrospectives. A site from Chris Matts: I consider retrospectives to be an anti-pattern. If you [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Just My Thoughts</title>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Retrospective Antipatterns...&lt;/strong&gt;

Are retrospectives an antipattern asks Steven. There are some interesting points raised there, and I certainly can see some antipatterns (some of which I have been guilty of, too). I don&#039;t think it&#039;s the retrospective per se that&#039;s the antipattern, ...</description>
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<p>Are retrospectives an antipattern asks Steven. There are some interesting points raised there, and I certainly can see some antipatterns (some of which I have been guilty of, too). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the retrospective per se that&#8217;s the antipattern, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Carver&#8217;s Punch Barrel / Are retrospectives an antipattern?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Carver&#8217;s Punch Barrel / Are retrospectives an antipattern?</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not do both? I believe that there is a place for immediate response and action, and that there is also a place for calm, retrospective review and discussion.

Why does it have to be either/or? They&#039;re not mutually exclusive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not do both? I believe that there is a place for immediate response and action, and that there is also a place for calm, retrospective review and discussion.</p>
<p>Why does it have to be either/or? They&#8217;re not mutually exclusive.</p>
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		<title>By: marc mcneill</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why wait to do the back slapping and finger pointing to the end of an iteration in this sacred ceremony called a retrospective? Far better to do it informally and continuously, as I suggest here...

http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/09/04/can-retrospectives-be-made-leaner/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wait to do the back slapping and finger pointing to the end of an iteration in this sacred ceremony called a retrospective? Far better to do it informally and continuously, as I suggest here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Kemper</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think formally having a retrospective as part of the process is good because it reminds us that we should be focusing on constantly improving the process. Retrospection is a critical part of the meta-process that guide agile processes. From the standpoint of a process around a process, it&#039;s really introspection.

Highly communicative, enlightened teams may not need a meeting because they will be in a constant state of identifying improvements and implementing them, in which case, the retrospective won&#039;t add much.

For many teams and organizations, such enlightenment won&#039;t be achieved, and they will benefit from a regular checkup on the process. Also, projects that are newly attempting an agile process should have a retrospective phase baked in the initial process blueprint, just to make sure they engage in the activity.

I would say, that it&#039;s a smell when you do retrospectives too infrequently, say, a month or more (if anyone can&#039;t remember the beginning of the period, too much time has passed). It&#039;s also generally a smell when retrospective take a long time (say, more than an hour). There are either too many people or too many problems.Retrospectives should be frequent and short.

Somewhat unrelated to you post, I also believe that many retrospectives would benefit from being focused. Instead of the &quot;What was Good/Bad? What should we change?&quot; or similar general questions, a retrospective should ask specific questions. How can we deliver faster, cheaper, higher quality, better for our customers, etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think formally having a retrospective as part of the process is good because it reminds us that we should be focusing on constantly improving the process. Retrospection is a critical part of the meta-process that guide agile processes. From the standpoint of a process around a process, it&#8217;s really introspection.</p>
<p>Highly communicative, enlightened teams may not need a meeting because they will be in a constant state of identifying improvements and implementing them, in which case, the retrospective won&#8217;t add much.</p>
<p>For many teams and organizations, such enlightenment won&#8217;t be achieved, and they will benefit from a regular checkup on the process. Also, projects that are newly attempting an agile process should have a retrospective phase baked in the initial process blueprint, just to make sure they engage in the activity.</p>
<p>I would say, that it&#8217;s a smell when you do retrospectives too infrequently, say, a month or more (if anyone can&#8217;t remember the beginning of the period, too much time has passed). It&#8217;s also generally a smell when retrospective take a long time (say, more than an hour). There are either too many people or too many problems.Retrospectives should be frequent and short.</p>
<p>Somewhat unrelated to you post, I also believe that many retrospectives would benefit from being focused. Instead of the &#8220;What was Good/Bad? What should we change?&#8221; or similar general questions, a retrospective should ask specific questions. How can we deliver faster, cheaper, higher quality, better for our customers, etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Kua</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is still value in looking backwards. Part of implementing change requires people to see a problem that needs solving. Without looking backwards, it&#039;s hard to understand what impact the problem has, how people view it, and often, what the root causes were. 

More importantly doing this as a group is sometimes an essential part to gain a shared understanding of the problem and consequences. Without this, conversations break down into four different solutions as everyone perceives the problem differently.</description>
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<p>More importantly doing this as a group is sometimes an essential part to gain a shared understanding of the problem and consequences. Without this, conversations break down into four different solutions as everyone perceives the problem differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Parker</title>
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		<description>The real skills that managers/leaders need are to teach the team and each individual to be leaders and managers of both themselves and others.

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<p>However one must purify ones greatest delusion first.<br />
Thus managers/leaders must help the team to purify their greatest delusion first.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Bellware</title>
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		<description>I think there are more forces in play than just the leadership.  Nonetheless, when what we&#039;re actually doing is &quot;interventions&quot; but calling them &quot;retrospectives&quot;, it&#039;s time to call much more into question than retrospectives colloquially allow.</description>
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U R teasing me, right? RT @athought: Blogged: Are retrospectives an antipattern?  [link to post]</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
		<link>http://www.stevenlist.com/blog/2009/03/20/are-retrospectives-an-antipattern/comment-page-1/#comment-330</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. I&#039;ve got to think about how the leader/manager learns to see need and to gain the skills that are needed.  I can see that, if exposed to an effective manager, one can learn the skill of seeing the need and addressing the issue.  And I suppose the same is true with facilitation.

The problem I see is that we have way too few managers/leaders who have those skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. I&#8217;ve got to think about how the leader/manager learns to see need and to gain the skills that are needed.  I can see that, if exposed to an effective manager, one can learn the skill of seeing the need and addressing the issue.  And I suppose the same is true with facilitation.</p>
<p>The problem I see is that we have way too few managers/leaders who have those skills.</p>
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